Thursday, 6 September 2007

PFOX Lies(Lies From The Religious Right? Say It Ain't So!)

Recently, PFOX[Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays] have recently claimed that they were attacked by some gay activists at an Arlington County Fair, and one of their claims was that a gay activist hit one of their "ex-gay" people. Fair enough that they should be upset about it, right?
...Well, actually, no, because the incident never happened! It was a complete fabrication. The police didn't remember such an incident(despite the fact PFOX said they removed a gay man from the premises), and the organisers said that the only thing that happened was a few raised voices between an "ex-gay" and a female fairgoer.
These lies from PFOX have been spread around on many Religious Right websites eg. CitizenLink. So, what's the odds the Right will recall this story, and apologise to their readers and the gay community?
...about as likely as someone in these "Ex-gay" ministries going totally straight is my guess.


Anonymous said...

Ex-Gay Watch Scandal: Assault did happen: Police Verify it!!

The statements made in a press release from PFOX about an assult on an ex-gay volunteer from PFOX at the Arlington county fair. Have now been confirmed by the Arlington police department. So shame on Exgaywatch for mocking a victim of a hate crime!!! Shame on BoxTurtleBulletin :Daniel Gonzales for applauding this hate crime and shouting Bravo!!! Shame on Timothy Kincaid for mocking the victim too and shame on Jim Burroway for showing no compassion to the victom of this hate crime. And shame on all those who accused PFOX of lying. You are despicable zealots with no compassion, decency, integrity and no humanity . Shame on Wayne Besen and Truth Wins Out. You added terrible insult to a hate crime comitted against an ex-gay.

You are never to be trusted again!!!!

Here is the Email I just Received from Arling PD:

Mr. Loewe:

Because you inquired about the alleged incident at the Arlington County Fair, I wanted to let you know that I have now spoken to two officers who are familiar with an incident similar to what has been described.

One officer told me today he was on patrol at the Fair when a woman approached him and told him a man had knocked over pamphlets at the PFOX booth and assaulted another man there.

The officer then spoke to the alleged victim. He did not want to press charges and therefore no written report was filed.

Based on the description the officer was given, he located the suspect at the Fair. Another officer escorted that gentleman off the Fair grounds.

If you have any additional questions please let me know.

John Lisle

Media Relations Office

Arlington County Police Dept.

1425 N. Courthouse Rd.

Arlington, VA 22201

Lith said...

"Have now been confirmed by the Arlington police department."

Okay, well, how come they didn't confirm this incident earlier, when Ex-Gay Watch inquired into its truth? And how come the fair officials don't remember such an event happening?

"So shame on Exgaywatch for mocking a victim of a hate crime!!!"

XGW dodn't do that. If a hate crime had occured, they would have been dismayed to have heard so. Just becuase they disagree with your views, doesn't mean they want you to get hurt.

"Shame on BoxTurtleBulletin :Daniel Gonzales for applauding this hate crime and shouting Bravo"

Cite please.

"And shame on all those who accused PFOX of lying."

We accused them of lying because that's what the evidence says they were doing--lying.

"You are despicable zealots with no compassion, decency, integrity and no humanity ."

Okay, that's a bit harsh...

"You are never to be trusted again!!!!"

Assuming you're right and this incident happened, why does making one error make everything I write untrustworthy?

[letter supposedly from Mr. John Lisle]

I see you posted this on XGW.(I'm heading over there to read comments in full now.) I will apologise and correct this article if I am wrong, however, your language here has been less than civil.

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SteveMD2 said...

I know a man who is exgay. After many dinner meetings I finally broke through his veneer of civility.

He said that gays are supporting the mandmen of the Westboro church, who celebrate the murders of gay people and our soldier fighting against terrorism. They are psychopaths, a family with generation after generation of endless physical, and possibly sexual abuse by the elders.

He also said of the vicious murder of Matthew Shepard "his parents should have fixed him". Blaming the parents for their sons vicious murder and justifying the murder at the same time.

The guy is a paranoid psychopath, terrorized by his catholic church into believing he is going to hell ffor being gay, Unless be becomes an absolute zealot.

This is what PFOX, the Catholic church "regeneration program " is all about.

This is what parts of christianity are about -eg the genocide of gays law which may be put in place in Uganda has been driven by American "anything but" christians.

One of whom is Don Schmierer of Exodus, the unbrella group of the "fix the gays" movement.

Murderers in the name of God, of which one of their appendages is PFOX.

Google "adicted to hate" to get a free electronic copy of a book by two of their sons who escaped the Klan long ago.

SteveMD2 said...

I might add that many of the anti gay and possibly ex gay ministries are now on the SPLC hate group list.

these are ministries of hatred hardly different except in religious brand name then the people of the extremist muslims who gave us 9/11

And btw, we lost 3000 people on 9/11, and started two wars because of religioous hatred.

What are we going to do re the 3000 gay kids who commit suicide every year in this country. Thanks to the words of these evil people.

Hitler only is known to have killed 1 person by his own hand. His words killed 55 million. We would have hanged him a million times if possible.

What do we do with the hate filled religious liars who create monsters just like hitler , and murder by suicide our gay children.

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